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More timeouts. Brandon, is frimble aware of this?
Left a note in the mod Slack for them.
Left a note in the mod Slack for them.
Added a General Information FAQ that contains basic information that members have requested be in one place. The link to this FAQ entry will be placed in the navigation bar for easy access and titled "General Site Info". If there's you think should be added to it, please let us know in the comments!
Changed the above paragraph in the post to this:
Changed the above paragraph in the post to this:
Added a General Staff and Site Information FAQ that contains basic information that members have requested be in one place. The link to this FAQ entry will be placed in the navigation bar for easy access and titled "Staff & Site Info". If there's something you think should be added to it, please let us know in the comments!Done to make it clearer that the link contains information about the staff.
Flagged as fantastic so many times and it's completely understandable why, so of course we added it to the sidebar and Best Of blog!
This isn't a great solution, true, but it's one that the staff can easily update, so that's a win, IMO.
The footer on the current site isn't easily editable, hence why it hasn't been updated in a long while.
The footer on the current site isn't easily editable, hence why it hasn't been updated in a long while.
And unless I've misunderstood something, this is the one triad of people at all of Metafilter right now who owns it and has any actual power to make decisions. Effectively invisible on the site unless you follow seventeen clicks to subsection 14(c) of the faq and then remember the whole time.
FYI, there is now a link in the site navigation bar titled "Staff & Site Info" that links to a FAQ entry that has the staff box and general site information. It's accessible from every page and if people have suggestions about other information that can go in there, please let us know in the comments or via the Contact Us page.
FYI, there is now a link in the site navigation bar titled "Staff & Site Info" that links to a FAQ entry that has the staff box and general site information. It's accessible from every page and if people have suggestions about other information that can go in there, please let us know in the comments or via the Contact Us page.
Awesome, thank you!
I believe it's been discussed in terms of handling account wipes differently, but if you're hoping for this specific feature, I recommend adding it to the feature request form. (list of requests).
One comment removed for being edited/changed to just a period. Please don't do that, especially as typing only a period is a common symbol for respectful silence that is used in obituaries, so it makes no sense in this thread.
Please don't edit your comment to change its meaning. Just flag it with a note, telling us to remove it or email us.
Please don't edit your comment to change its meaning. Just flag it with a note, telling us to remove it or email us.
[Positively] Is the link to "collecting information about member run activities and events" supposed to go here?
Yep, fixed now, thanks for pointing out!
Curious why Seattle was selected for the P.O. Box location and how that will work with a board-run site.
One of the board members lives there, so it's easy for them to pick it up.
Also added a link to the MefiQuote announcement page.
Yep, fixed now, thanks for pointing out!
Curious why Seattle was selected for the P.O. Box location and how that will work with a board-run site.
One of the board members lives there, so it's easy for them to pick it up.
Also added a link to the MefiQuote announcement page.
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One comment deleted. Please don't call anyone Lizard Person, this is a dog whistle rooted in antisemitic conspiracy theories that have long sought to dehumanize Jewish people and as such goes against our Content Policy and Community Guidelines.
UsPolitics tag added
One comment above deleted. While we avoid deleting comments in MetaTalk, Name calling and personal attacks go against our content policy, please abide by it regardless of the subsite you are in.
So beautiful to see and there's no Gollum, so we've added this thread to the sidebar and Best Of blog!
Oooh, thanks for starting this and thanks to all who chimed in with suggestions! This post has been added to the sidebar and Best Of blog!
UsPolitics tag added
What steps are you taking towards that?
β We've moved from this being a one person effort to a team effort and set timelines/owners for each section of the site update.
β I'm working with the board to set better communication channels for volunteers, the board and the staff.
β Brandon and I discussed just yesterday the possibility of breaking the site update into different posts (tech updates, admin updates, moderation updates, etc..) that way once section won't hold the other.
β We've moved from this being a one person effort to a team effort and set timelines/owners for each section of the site update.
β I'm working with the board to set better communication channels for volunteers, the board and the staff.
β Brandon and I discussed just yesterday the possibility of breaking the site update into different posts (tech updates, admin updates, moderation updates, etc..) that way once section won't hold the other.
One comment posted by mistake deleted.
The site update should be out by Friday evening, have been waiting on some information.
Yep, I dropped the ball there (original comment), so my apologies.
I usually set a reminder or have note for that stuff, just forgot to do it this time around.
I usually set a reminder or have note for that stuff, just forgot to do it this time around.
Antisemitism is not tolerated on MetaFilter and the moderators want to know if members do see it occurring. Please flag it (a note is helpful) or email us with a llink to the comment/incident.
And while this thread is about antisemitism specifically, please remember this from our Content Policy:
And while this thread is about antisemitism specifically, please remember this from our Content Policy:
MetaFilter is an inclusive space. Avoid posting racial slurs or stereotypes; deliberately misgendering/misnaming others; questioning the existence and/or validity of trans identities as well as other racist, misogynist, homophobic, transphobic, ageist, ableist or otherwise hateful speech. This includes making hateful or insensitive statements ironically or sarcastically as well as linking hateful sources (authors or websites).
Thank you for all your hard work kirkaracha, we've noted the new site developments in the sidebar and Best Of blog!
This is good news and a great addition, with all the other recent code changes, so we've added this post to the sidebar and Best Of blog!
If Violet Blue, or anyone else, wants to create a MeTa about anti semitism on MetaFilter and how to reduce it, that's totally fine, go for it. I recommend avoiding making it personal and please avoid trying to police the thread and arguing with everyone who disagrees with your (general your, not a specific person) point of view.
This thread should stick to discussion about moderation and the MeTa queue.
This thread should stick to discussion about moderation and the MeTa queue.
Added UsPolitics tag
One comment deleted, let's avoid personal attacks and calling another MeFite "sucker". Please refer to the content policy.
Sparky Buttons: "I think it would be helpful if the posts that dont make it through the queue are noted on the mod log."
Agreed and it was requested back on March 22 that the moderation log on the new site record that information. Mentioning that to make it clear there's no objection to making that information visible, just no clear technical way at them moment, but restless_nomad has suggested a work around.
pdb: " is that decision and the reason why communicated to the person who created the post (via MeMail or other communication method)? Because if not, it absolutely should be. #pleaseanswer
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Yes, the member is emailed the reason why it wasn't published. Both of the mentioned MeTas were emailed.
It's possible that the process should be changed to "posted but closed with deletion reason" rather than just not posted,
Decent idea, will talk it over with the other mods, thanks for suggesting it!
Out of interest, why do messages or notes in flags have more weight in the decision than (hypothetically) a MeTa that might be 90% decent discussion amid the fighty-ness?
They don't necessarily have more weight, it's very conditional. In this particular instance, I'm mentioning them as way that members have communicated, along with emails, what they think of particular situations.
Agreed and it was requested back on March 22 that the moderation log on the new site record that information. Mentioning that to make it clear there's no objection to making that information visible, just no clear technical way at them moment, but restless_nomad has suggested a work around.
pdb: " is that decision and the reason why communicated to the person who created the post (via MeMail or other communication method)? Because if not, it absolutely should be. #pleaseanswer
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Yes, the member is emailed the reason why it wasn't published. Both of the mentioned MeTas were emailed.
It's possible that the process should be changed to "posted but closed with deletion reason" rather than just not posted,
Decent idea, will talk it over with the other mods, thanks for suggesting it!
Out of interest, why do messages or notes in flags have more weight in the decision than (hypothetically) a MeTa that might be 90% decent discussion amid the fighty-ness?
They don't necessarily have more weight, it's very conditional. In this particular instance, I'm mentioning them as way that members have communicated, along with emails, what they think of particular situations.
Thanks for Lemkin for making this post and shout out to trig for the fantastic comment about the ebook market! We've added both to the Best Of blog and sidebar!
Brandon: what happened to Violet Blue's MeTa thread?
Please create a MeTa for that and cease derailing this one. I'm up for a little bit, so it should go through. Yes, people may think it's ridiculous, to create a MeTa about why another MeTa wasn't published, but folks need to stop derailing this post.
I'm up for a while longer, so will send it through.
Please create a MeTa for that and cease derailing this one. I'm up for a little bit, so it should go through. Yes, people may think it's ridiculous, to create a MeTa about why another MeTa wasn't published, but folks need to stop derailing this post.
I'm up for a while longer, so will send it through.
I did consider making a MeTa post that was literally just "who is in charge here"
Slight update to the General Info FAQ which clarifies the position of the Interim Board (IB) members, and clarifies that loup is in a position over all the moderators.
But for quick reference, here's the Board info:
Rhaomi: President
1Adam12: Treasurer
Gorgik: Secretary
Slight update to the General Info FAQ which clarifies the position of the Interim Board (IB) members, and clarifies that loup is in a position over all the moderators.
But for quick reference, here's the Board info:
Rhaomi: President
1Adam12: Treasurer
Gorgik: Secretary
Violet Blue, you're derailing this thread, please stop doing that.
There's a consistent pattern of behavior here where you post a thread on the front page, people have disagreements with you about the subject and then you try to police the thread. When told to stop you begin accusing people of organizing against you and/or contacting the mods to get their comments taken down.
The I/P subject is a complex one with lots of sides and emotions. It is recommended that you stop trying to argue with every single person who disagrees you. It is recommended that you stop accusing others of working in some organized fashion against you. People simply disagree with your take on things and that's perfectly fine.
Please stop posting comments in this thread. If you don't, we'll have to start removing your comments and/or issue temporary bans of increasing length, so please stop.
There's a consistent pattern of behavior here where you post a thread on the front page, people have disagreements with you about the subject and then you try to police the thread. When told to stop you begin accusing people of organizing against you and/or contacting the mods to get their comments taken down.
The I/P subject is a complex one with lots of sides and emotions. It is recommended that you stop trying to argue with every single person who disagrees you. It is recommended that you stop accusing others of working in some organized fashion against you. People simply disagree with your take on things and that's perfectly fine.
Please stop posting comments in this thread. If you don't, we'll have to start removing your comments and/or issue temporary bans of increasing length, so please stop.
Fixed that link!
[Hey, this was an unexpected delight, thank you for sharing it with us! We've added it to the sidebar and Best Of blog! ]
Thanks for sharing these links by making this post! We added it to the sidebar and Best Of blog!
Fixed reedbird_hill's comment above as requested.
Oops, in trying to favorite warriorqueen's comment, I accidently removed it, for about 5-10 seconds. My apologies!
Hey, it's Brandon again, going to respond to questions about the simple mod log by first explaining how it came to be:
Me: hey, we should do the mod log that members have been asking for
Management (MM): we don't really have the resources to do that
Me: well, members are distrustful, so it would be good to show them that there isn't anything weird going on.
MM: yeah, but we don't have the resources
This occurs a few times until I the internal tracker we used is kinda like a log.
Me: Hey this tracker we use kinda works like a mod log, can we repurpose that to be a mod log? That way we're not starting from scratch and just adjusting a few things.
MM: ok, we can do that.
Some time passes due to frimble getting in an accident and being unable to work for a bit, then the transition happens and other things are made priority, coding wise.
Me: soooo, about the mod log?
MM: yep, we're finishing it up, here's an admin only look at it for now. we're not going to flesh it out, as resources are focused on developing the new site.
Me: hey members, here's a simple moderation log (SML)!
Members: Ok, cool, but why isn't this more full featured?!
Me: Focusing resources on new site.
Me thinking to myself: This could be more full featured and a lot of members will be disappointed and want more, which makes total sense, but this is at least at start and we can go from there.
For the record, I'm 100% behind doing a full featured moderation log. The one at lobster.rs has been mentioned a few times and I think that's a great goal to shoot for, with a few MeFi tweaks.
...but I do wonder why the log isnβt an archive...
Why only 50 comments and why only the last 7 days?
Unknown, my guess is that it was the simplest or easiest thing to do or queries the database the least, but I honestly don't know. Have posted that question on the Slack.
Me: hey, we should do the mod log that members have been asking for
Management (MM): we don't really have the resources to do that
Me: well, members are distrustful, so it would be good to show them that there isn't anything weird going on.
MM: yeah, but we don't have the resources
This occurs a few times until I the internal tracker we used is kinda like a log.
Me: Hey this tracker we use kinda works like a mod log, can we repurpose that to be a mod log? That way we're not starting from scratch and just adjusting a few things.
MM: ok, we can do that.
Some time passes due to frimble getting in an accident and being unable to work for a bit, then the transition happens and other things are made priority, coding wise.
Me: soooo, about the mod log?
MM: yep, we're finishing it up, here's an admin only look at it for now. we're not going to flesh it out, as resources are focused on developing the new site.
Me: hey members, here's a simple moderation log (SML)!
Members: Ok, cool, but why isn't this more full featured?!
Me: Focusing resources on new site.
Me thinking to myself: This could be more full featured and a lot of members will be disappointed and want more, which makes total sense, but this is at least at start and we can go from there.
For the record, I'm 100% behind doing a full featured moderation log. The one at lobster.rs has been mentioned a few times and I think that's a great goal to shoot for, with a few MeFi tweaks.
...but I do wonder why the log isnβt an archive...
Why only 50 comments and why only the last 7 days?
Unknown, my guess is that it was the simplest or easiest thing to do or queries the database the least, but I honestly don't know. Have posted that question on the Slack.
The info page needs to clarify what the years mean by someone's name.
Done and have added the link to the functional spec to that page.
I'm taking stakeholder in this instance to apply specifically to just that document, i.e. people who can go in to edit and manage it and be responsible for coordinating with kirkaracha about what feature list is and what order said features are implemented.
Done and have added the link to the functional spec to that page.
I'm taking stakeholder in this instance to apply specifically to just that document, i.e. people who can go in to edit and manage it and be responsible for coordinating with kirkaracha about what feature list is and what order said features are implemented.
This page says loup does management and Brandon does communications.
Yep and loup reports to the board, which is currently the Interim Board. All the mods and developers have access to their Slack channel and can bring things up to them.
Creatrixtiara, if there's something in particular you think the staff should do or being in terms of the BiPOC, I'd recommend asking for that thing to be done publicly, like here in this thread. If there's specific tasks you think the Board needs done and you think a mod can assist with, just shoot us an email or make a MeTa with the ask
General purpose goals or discussion might better formal meetings, but that's y'all's call. The bottom line is that staff can and is willing to help, it's just a matter of defining that sort of help the BIPOC board wants
Yep and loup reports to the board, which is currently the Interim Board. All the mods and developers have access to their Slack channel and can bring things up to them.
Creatrixtiara, if there's something in particular you think the staff should do or being in terms of the BiPOC, I'd recommend asking for that thing to be done publicly, like here in this thread. If there's specific tasks you think the Board needs done and you think a mod can assist with, just shoot us an email or make a MeTa with the ask
General purpose goals or discussion might better formal meetings, but that's y'all's call. The bottom line is that staff can and is willing to help, it's just a matter of defining that sort of help the BIPOC board wants
So much to know, so much to share, so it's been added to the sidebar and Best Of Blog!
Another comment removed that was just repost of a previous comment of theirs, evidently in protest of the now deleted comment that was just a repost of another comment that was reproduced seemingly in protest of a comment they thought was deleted but was not.
Knock it off y'all.
Posted edited to remove the click tracking link and replace with just the destination URL.
One comment removed because it was a repost of another comment which the poster thought was deleted, but wasn't.
A bare bones moderation log has been released, here's the thread announcing and discussing it.
Post corrected to be in Season 3, not 2, based on a flag.
DeepSeaHaggis, the site custom is to skip past threads you don't like or that you find triggering. If you choose to engage with such a thread, at least be thoughtful and constructive.
Posting comments in all caps that focus on how much you dislike the subject of the is not that. So please avoid the this thread from this point on and remove it from your recent activity. If you do return here and continue as you have, we'll move on to site bans of increasing length if you continue.
No comments have been removed and a link to this note have been MeFiMailed to DeepSeaHaggis
Cheers to ashbury for making a post so delicious we just had to put it on the sidebar and Best Of blog!
One duplicate comment removed.
[So is it now a policy that mods should always leave a comment when they delete? People were asking for that for a while, it's great if that's true.
Yes, it is policy that a mod should always leave an official note when something is removed. If you see it not happening, please point that out by email at least!
Yes, some of us were a bit forgetful when we started doing that, but at this point it should be happening as the default, no exceptions. If it isn't, please report it!
(makes mental note to update FAQ entries that mention deleting by this evening)
Yes, it is policy that a mod should always leave an official note when something is removed. If you see it not happening, please point that out by email at least!
Yes, some of us were a bit forgetful when we started doing that, but at this point it should be happening as the default, no exceptions. If it isn't, please report it!
(makes mental note to update FAQ entries that mention deleting by this evening)
There is a list of staff and committees...
That's the page I mentioned a few comments ago and since it's publicly visible now, just gonna leave it so. Was waiting for confirmation on who is currently on the BiPOC committee, which I got about 30 minutes ago.
That's the page I mentioned a few comments ago and since it's publicly visible now, just gonna leave it so. Was waiting for confirmation on who is currently on the BiPOC committee, which I got about 30 minutes ago.
I'm thinking the idea of having one page with all the committees, the elections, the boards.
I am working today on a General Information page that does things like this, it'll be mentioned in the Site Update, which is running a little late (should have been posted this week but waiting on some information)
The site update should happen by Wednesday of next week at the very latest. If it doesn't, mods will make a post a MeTa explaining the delay.]
I am working today on a General Information page that does things like this, it'll be mentioned in the Site Update, which is running a little late (should have been posted this week but waiting on some information)
The site update should happen by Wednesday of next week at the very latest. If it doesn't, mods will make a post a MeTa explaining the delay.]
MetaFilter post History Professor Answers Dictator Questions deleted. Double.
If it's not easy to add new ones right now, so be it. Mods?
You're correct, it's not easy to add new ones right now and we're more or less just leaving that sidebar as is as we work on the new site. While it hasn't been decided on whether we'll have sharing links sidebar on the new site. If we do, it's safe to say that FB won't be on it.
You're correct, it's not easy to add new ones right now and we're more or less just leaving that sidebar as is as we work on the new site. While it hasn't been decided on whether we'll have sharing links sidebar on the new site. If we do, it's safe to say that FB won't be on it.
One comment removed for not answering the question.
While it's great that people are sharing things inspired by the OP's question, please remember that Ask MetaFilter is about people helping people, aka answering the question the OP has asked. There are strict guidelines about keeping answers limited to what was asked, so keep your answers focused on helping the OP, thanks!
While it's great that people are sharing things inspired by the OP's question, please remember that Ask MetaFilter is about people helping people, aka answering the question the OP has asked. There are strict guidelines about keeping answers limited to what was asked, so keep your answers focused on helping the OP, thanks!
Changed a link in the question to "cis woman and a trans woman" as noted above.
One comment deleted. Please avoid heavily editing your comments.
This was so much damn fun, how could we not add it to the sidebar and Best Of blog?!
One comment removed.
Calling everyone who believes in a certain point of view "murderers and complicit" reduces the discussion to an emotional argument that no side can ever rise above or get past.
Disagreement is fine and welcomed on MetaFilter. Heading for the extremes is not. Let's try and find ways to disagree that don't paint the other as mortal enemies.
Ok have updated things to the correct movie, thanks all for pointing it out!
One comment deleted. No need to correct someoneβs grammar.
Tagged as USPolitics
Thanks for asking this, it's a really good question these days! We've added it to the sidebar and Best Of blog!
Two removed: please stick to answering the question.
MetaFilter post Naughty Bunny deleted. Test deletion of FanFare post, does the reason appear in the log?!
MetaFilter post Discover royalty-free photos. deleted. Spam.
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MetaFilter post Test, please ignore deleted. Deletion reason from test post on MeFI, does it appear in log?
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